tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4685634083080876125.post8126607611252395635..comments2023-11-03T07:24:19.298+00:00Comments on Film Intel: The BIG Question - Are Tim Burton's Films Too Similar For Their Own Good?Sam Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05696602364349746693noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4685634083080876125.post-10399285284248204222010-04-17T17:21:57.141+01:002010-04-17T17:21:57.141+01:00Andrew - there's many people that will defend ...Andrew - there's many people that will defend Burton and I think that's fine: his films are of the sort that inspire a big, passionate fanbase. I'd agree that yes, although there are perhaps only face value simularities, his films tackle different subjects but I think his bizzaro wackiness could do with a rain check. I agree with James Rocchi's 'typical Burton protagonist' criticism though and I think it not only applies to Alice but also to both leads in Sweeny Todd.<br /><br />Uni - I think you're absolutely right about Alice. It fit to comfortably into his'zone' and, to be honest, I think he got lazy. There is very little that is genuinely interesting in that film.<br /><br />Simon - I agree: the hair is a problem. But seriously, you do make a very good distinction: between subject and style. I think it's valid to say that despite tackling different subject, Burton retains the same style, which some will like and others won't.Sam Turnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05696602364349746693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4685634083080876125.post-73812488402208818112010-04-16T22:33:47.832+01:002010-04-16T22:33:47.832+01:00Good point, but I don't like his movies becaus...Good point, but I don't like his movies because not only do they incorporate the same style, but the same themes, hair, and daddy-issues.Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08085105568601878075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4685634083080876125.post-49427639818728302182010-04-16T17:57:09.612+01:002010-04-16T17:57:09.612+01:00Burton's reached that zone, much like Spielber...Burton's reached that zone, much like Spielberg and sci-fi has, where they have a handful of films that are kind of similar. So they get socially associated with that visual representation. I think the problem with Alice is that it fit the Burton pre-conception way too well. His other works like Big Fish, Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, played around with that conception, but (with perhaps the exception of Edward Scissorhands) we're completely apart of it.<br /><br />Alice, on the other hand, sat right into the middle of all his popular criticisms and strengths, highlighting both incredibly well.Univarnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01437654003558435749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4685634083080876125.post-33626933041631975452010-04-16T17:35:20.459+01:002010-04-16T17:35:20.459+01:00I'm always sensitive to Burton criticism, even...I'm always sensitive to Burton criticism, even though I don't LOVE him. I didn't like Alice in Wonderland very much, but it fails because it less like Burton work than normal. <br /><br />Stylistically I suppose the similarities are rampant, the dark alleys of fleet streets, the woods of Corpse Bride, the forests of Wonderland and Sleepy Hollow. But it's only ostensibly at best. They're all done in different contexts. <br /><br />Good question though.Andrew K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01104647944747041277noreply@blogger.com